By Trungpa, Rinpoche Chogyam
"transcript of talks given via Chogyam Trungpa, Rinpoche on the fourth Vajradhatu Seminary, a twelve-week interval of in depth meditation and learn, held at Land O'Lakes, Wisconsin September-November 1976"
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Emptiness is full as opposed to emptiness is form. You see, you don't have to resort to existence, which is the idea of form, rupa, body. You could say emptiness is full rather than trying to make it into a thing. Q: It's full of all the psychological dharmas and all of the lower dharmas of the phenomenal world? R: No, full of itself. Q: Full of itself? R: Full of self. Q: Egolessness is full of itself? R: Egolessness is. Actually egolessness is not a good word. Instead we could say no ego is full of itself.
There are several situations in which a person can exper~ence the profundity of egolessness. But that can't happen completely if the person doesn't experience giving up of his or her own various trips. " The basic point is that we can't discuss the real teachings of hinayana completely if you have no full and proper understanding and experience of discipline. Discipline automatically means pushing yourself to be disciplined, sitting diligently, practicing properly, completely. Also your everyday life here-eating food, smoking cigarettes, lounging together in your little rooms, whatever the situation may be-should all be included in the practice of discipline.
R: You're welcome. Q: This individual ego or "me" you talk about, that is, oneself alone without any other reference point-I don't quite understand what that experience would be, the experience of no other reference point. R: It is oneself. It is the neurosis of masturbation in oneself, continuing oneself-which is fantastically built up. A lot of cults are built up around that. One's own, one's own, one's own thingy. You know what I mean? Q: Is it that you're still getting some sensory imput, or whatever, but you just don't relate to it as a reference point at all?
1976 Seminary Transcripts: Hinayana - Mahayana by Trungpa, Rinpoche Chogyam